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Highspeed Analysis

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I thought you guys might be interested in these graphs that I have calculated.
Just shows how fast they can get!
Just shows how fast they can get!
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1: Accelerating on launch tube (shows how useful a launch tube is)
2: A constant increase in velocity along launch tube
3: Less water = More thrust
4: Probably a bit too much water
5: Accelerating with air only
6: Reaching peak velocity (420kph) and acceleration (3793m/s^2 or 387g)
7: Accelerating less
8: Almost a constant velocity, almost out of pressure

Heres the photos I analysed.
120fps
120fps
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Re: Highspeed Analysis

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Brian wrote:I thought you guys might be interested in these graphs that I have calculated.
untitled2.JPG
Frames
1: Accelerating on launch tube (shows how useful a launch tube is)
2: A constant increase in velocity along launch tube
3: Less water = More thrust
4: Probably a bit too much water
5: Accelerating with air only
6: Reaching peak velocity (420kph) and acceleration (3793m/s^2 or 387g)
7: Accelerating less
8: Almost a constant velocity, almost out of pressure

Heres the photos I analysed.
Copy of Water Rocket (337) numbered.JPG

That's pretty interesting data. How were you able to do those calculations from just the pictures? Did you use a reference object and take measurements based on how far the rocket moved in a given unit of time (in this case 1/120 seconds??)
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Correct, I measured an object in the pictures, then the object on screen, then measured the distance the rocket traveled. I made an Excel Spreadsheet to calculate the rest. It can be downloaded from my new website http://ascenderwaterrockets.weebly.com/highspeed.html
I compared a 1.25L rocket with a 22mm nozzle and a wooden recovery system and camera module to a 1.75L rocket with 30mm nozzle and same payload and the 1.25L was faster SC:
Im thinking the 30mm nozzle is too for this size bottle.
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Brian wrote:Correct, I measured an object in the pictures, then the object on screen, then measured the distance the rocket traveled. I made an Excel Spreadsheet to calculate the rest. It can be downloaded from my new website http://ascenderwaterrockets.weebly.com/highspeed.html
I compared a 1.25L rocket with a 22mm nozzle and a wooden recovery system and camera module to a 1.75L rocket with 30mm nozzle and same payload and the 1.25L was faster SC:
Im thinking the 30mm nozzle is too for this size bottle.
What kind of camera did you use that does 120FPS?
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Ricoh CX1, a small point and shoot camera with the ability to do a 120fps in a 1 second burst. Only 640x480 but still looks awsome.
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Brian wrote:Correct, I measured an object in the pictures, then the object on screen, then measured the distance the rocket traveled. I made an Excel Spreadsheet to calculate the rest. It can be downloaded from my new website http://ascenderwaterrockets.weebly.com/highspeed.html
I compared a 1.25L rocket with a 22mm nozzle and a wooden recovery system and camera module to a 1.75L rocket with 30mm nozzle and same payload and the 1.25L was faster SC:
Im thinking the 30mm nozzle is too for this size bottle.
Excellent photo analysis! You have done a masterful job. I was wondering if you did that for your own purposes or if you did it for a school project of some type. If it was for school then I also commend you on your creative application of water rockets!
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TH: I first started wondering how fast my rockets were going, so I started analysing the highspeeds I was taking. Then instead of doing the calculations every time, I put the equations into an Excel Spreadsheet + it also gave me neat graphs.
I wish I had such a school project, but I just hope this may be usful to someone.
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Brian wrote:Ricoh CX1, a small point and shoot camera with the ability to do a 120fps in a 1 second burst. Only 640x480 but still looks awsome.
Ok. Thanks for clearing that up for us!
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