PET Bottle Splice Test

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Post Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:43 pm

PET Bottle Splice Test

Wednesday I happened to think of how well plastic cement would work to splice bottles. I thought that since plastic cement melts the plastic together, it might produce a stronger bond than a polyethylene based glue. I don't know how this will work yet. I spliced two smaller 8oz bottles together to test it. I plan on testing it tomorrow when I launch my 8 litre rocket. I am hoping this will work. Has anyone else tried this sort of thing? I noticed that the dry time on the package says 4 hours. That sounds like a better turn over time should a rocket need repair.

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Post Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:16 pm

Re: PET Bottle Splice Test

DogLover wrote:Wednesday I happened to think of how well plastic cement would work to splice bottles. I thought that since plastic cement melts the plastic together, it might produce a stronger bond than a polyethylene based glue. I don't know how this will work yet. I spliced two smaller 8oz bottles together to test it. I plan on testing it tomorrow when I launch my 8 litre rocket. I am hoping this will work. Has anyone else tried this sort of thing? I noticed that the dry time on the package says 4 hours. That sounds like a better turn over time should a rocket need repair.

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Be careful with this idea. There are technical risks with this approach. The main consideration is the way that PET bottles are fabricated aligns the molecule chains such that they produce a strong flexible plastic. You can disturb this arrangement with chemicals or heat. If you ever overheated a bottle when shrinking it you would know how you can make the PET very brittle and weak. A glue that melts the plastic could cause it to become brittle and fail.
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Post Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:05 pm

Re: PET Bottle Splice Test

U.S. Water Rockets1 wrote:
DogLover wrote:Wednesday I happened to think of how well plastic cement would work to splice bottles. I thought that since plastic cement melts the plastic together, it might produce a stronger bond than a polyethylene based glue. I don't know how this will work yet. I spliced two smaller 8oz bottles together to test it. I plan on testing it tomorrow when I launch my 8 litre rocket. I am hoping this will work. Has anyone else tried this sort of thing? I noticed that the dry time on the package says 4 hours. That sounds like a better turn over time should a rocket need repair.

-DogLover


Be careful with this idea. There are technical risks with this approach. The main consideration is the way that PET bottles are fabricated aligns the molecule chains such that they produce a strong flexible plastic. You can disturb this arrangement with chemicals or heat. If you ever overheated a bottle when shrinking it you would know how you can make the PET very brittle and weak. A glue that melts the plastic could cause it to become brittle and fail.


Slow cooling will make it crystallize more, and you end up with strong fibers but weak plastics. A very fast cooling will help the PET maintain some of it's amorphous structure.
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Post Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:51 am

Re: PET Bottle Splice Test

I think model cement will work great.

Modern model/plastic cement is less prone to embrittlement, yellowing and cracking.

Cost in volume was likely a factor for most rocketeers to avoid it and use cheaper products that have longer shelf life, such as Gorilla Glue and PL Premium.
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Post Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:18 pm

Re: PET Bottle Splice Test

The particular glue I used failed completely. I might try a stronger glue if I get my hands on it. I am not too sure if it is worth it though. I already know that the PLP works well.

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Post Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:55 pm

Re: PET Bottle Splice Test

PLP with aircommandrocket tutorial work very very good !! No leak with 120 PSI!

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